Karl's Appearance on the Predictable B2B Success Podcast

“I’m not here to fire anybody.” It was the elephant in the room when Karl started working with a new organization. More specifically, when he started talking to somebody who the team was considering letting go. “I don’t know what’s going to happen, but my goal is to improve things.”

During their first meeting, Karl made a commitment to that sales person. “I’m going to find out what your world is like right now. I’m going to learn why you’re with this company, what you wish it was like, how you would improve it. Everything. And I’m going to show you, through my actions, that you can trust me. That I’m here to support you.”

The salesperson was, rightfully, skeptical, but she gave Karl a chance.

Over the next several weeks, they’d meet at least twice a week, and Karl learned a few things very quickly.

The saleswoman didn’t feel like she was respected.
She felt like she was often treated poorly.
She didn’t feel heard.

One big point of contention was that she wanted to have longer meetings than the standard 30-minute ones her team was expected to do. She felt she needed at least 45-minutes to get to know people and really be effective.

“I’m tired of being told I can only do 30-minute calls so that I can do as many as possible. Give me an hour. Give me 45-minutes, even. I’ll take less calls, but I know I’ll be able to close more than anyone else.”

Karl met with the leadership team and told them he wanted to do a 30 day experiment. During those 30 days, he’d make decisions he felt would best elevate the sales team and the leadership team would refrain from making any personnel changes. They agreed.

The biggest change was a simple one: the sales team was in charge of their own schedules. They could set meetings for the amount of time they felt they needed.

By the end of the 30 days, the average sales price had increased by about 30%, the whole team’s close rate had gone up, and the person who was initially on the chopping block had the highest closing rate of the entire team. An interesting follow up fact: she maintained the lead 80% of the time for the next 3 years while Karl was there.

The salesperson wasn’t being difficult by insisting that she needed to have longer calls with potential customers. She was trying to take the time to get to know them so she could sell more effectively. Had the sales leaders fired her, as they thought they needed to do, the entire team would’ve not only lost her great sales record, but never improved as a whole.

On the How to Drive Growth Through Empathy episode of the Predictable B2B Success Podcast, Karl shares how digging beneath the surface helps you learn better ways to motivate your sales team in addition to improving your business, why lack of foundation can hold back even successful sales organizations, and more.

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